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01/25/2011 01:00 PM Senate TRANSPORTATION


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01:02:32 PM Start
01:03:06 PM Overview(s) by Marc Luiken, Commissioner, Department of Transportation and Public Facilities.
02:21:33 PM Adjourn
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                         JOINT MEETING                                                                                        
            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
            SENATE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                          
                        January 25, 2011                                                                                        
                           1:02 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE TRANSPORTATION                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Peggy Wilson, Chair                                                                                             
 Representative Lance Pruitt, Vice Chair                                                                                        
 Representative Eric Feige                                                                                                      
 Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                   
 Representative Cathy Engstrom Munoz                                                                                            
 Representative Pete Petersen                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATE TRANSPORTATION                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Albert Kookesh, Chair                                                                                                  
 Senator Joe Thomas, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
 Senator Dennis Egan                                                                                                            
 Senator Linda Menard                                                                                                           
 Senator Charlie Huggins                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE TRANSPORTATION                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Max Gruenberg                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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 All members present                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW(S) BY MARC LUIKEN~ COMMISSIONER~ DEPARTMENT OF                                                                         
TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC FACILITIES.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MARK LUIKEN, Commissioner                                                                                                       
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities (DOT&PF)                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented the  overview of the Department of                                                             
Transportation & Public Facilities (DOT&PF).                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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1:02:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  PEGGY WILSON  called the  joint meeting  of the  House and                                                             
Senate Transportation  Standing Committees to order  at 1:02 p.m.                                                               
Representatives Wilson,  Munoz, Feige, Pruitt, and  Petersen were                                                               
present  at  the  call  to order.    Senators  Kookesh,  Huggins,                                                               
Menard,  Egan, and  Thomas were  present  at the  call to  order.                                                               
Representative Johnson  arrived as  the meeting was  in progress.                                                               
Senator  Giessel  was also  in  attendance.   [Due  to  technical                                                               
difficulties the  call to order was  taken from log notes  and is                                                               
not on the audio recording.]                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:03:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW(s)   by  Marc   Luiken,  Commissioner,   Department  of                                                             
Transportation and Public Facilities.                                                                                         
    OVERVIEW(s) by Marc Luiken, Commissioner, Department of                                                                 
             Transportation and Public Facilities.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
1:04:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P. WILSON  announced that the only order  of business would                                                               
be an  overview of  the Department  of Transportation  and Public                                                               
Facilities by  Commissioner Marc  Luiken.  She  briefly described                                                               
Commissioner Luiken's career background.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:05:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARK LUIKEN, Commissioner, Department  of Transportation & Public                                                               
Facilities  (DOT&PF), began  his PowerPoint  overview by  reading                                                               
the DOT&PF's mission statement [slides  2].  The DOT&PF's mission                                                               
is to provide  for the safe and efficient movement  of people and                                                               
goods  and the  delivery of  state services.   He  stated he  has                                                               
changed the  goal slightly,  to add "and  efficient," which  is a                                                               
theme that  will be present  throughout his overview today.   The                                                               
DOT&PF's goal is to bring  projects out more efficiently and find                                                               
more efficient ways  to provide transportation to the  state.  He                                                               
stressed the  importance of  being good  stewards of  the state's                                                               
resources.  Secondly, he pointed  out since the federal resources                                                               
are diminishing  it is  vitally important  to maximize  state and                                                               
federal resources.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:08:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN  said his  initial  focus  at Department  of                                                               
Transportation  & Public  Facilities (DOT&PF)  will be  to become                                                               
familiar with the department.   He related his intention to spend                                                               
considerable  time with  the organization  to better  help define                                                               
its overall vision.  He offered  his belief that unless "you know                                                               
where you  are going" it is  difficult to become successful.   He                                                               
vowed  to work  with his  leadership  team to  better define  the                                                               
DOT&PF's mission, vision, and values.   He suggested that today's                                                               
PowerPoint  overview will  outline  his initial  ideas about  the                                                               
DOT&PF.  He briefly discussed the  DOTPF vision [slide 3] and the                                                               
values [slide 4].  He  emphasized the importance of transparency,                                                               
efficiency,  and  providing  quality services  in  transportation                                                               
modes for  the state.   He said  hopes to identify  and inculcate                                                               
these  values  at DOT&PF,  including  using  the highest  ethical                                                               
standards in the interactions with  people and to ensure that the                                                               
DOT&PF's  decisions,   actions,  and   processes  are   open  and                                                               
understandable,  both internally  and externally.   Finally,  his                                                               
last goal  is to  provide outstanding service  to customers.   He                                                               
hopes  clearly defining  the DOT&PF  goals  will orient  DOT&PF's                                                               
staff in the way they think and act.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:10:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN referred  to the  organization chart  [slide                                                               
5].    One  change  made  to the  organization  is  to  move  the                                                               
Administrative  Services Director,  Laura  Baker, directly  under                                                               
his authority.   He reported  his three new  deputy commissioners                                                               
as  Pat  Kemp,  the  Deputy Commissioner  of  Highways  &  Public                                                               
Facilities; Steve Hatter, Deputy  Commissioner of Aviation; and a                                                               
new  Deputy  Commissioner of  the  Alaska  Marine Highway  System                                                               
(AMHS),   who  will   be  announced   once   the  Marine   Safety                                                               
Transportation  Board (MSTB)  has had  an opportunity  to further                                                               
discuss the  deputy commissioner position  with him.   He offered                                                               
some remarks,  such that  Mr. Hatter's  background is  similar to                                                               
his  and their  approach to  issues  is similarly  aligned so  he                                                               
anticipates  continuity  on  aviation projects.    He  introduced                                                               
Captain  John Falvey  as the  Acting Deputy  Commissioner of  the                                                               
Marine Highway System.   He related that  Deputy Commissioner Pat                                                               
Kemp resides in  Juneau and will retain the Division  of Design &                                                               
Engineering Services,  Division of Program  Development, Division                                                               
of  Measurement  Standards  &  Commercial  Vehicle,  Enforcement,                                                               
Transportation Management  & Security, Statewide  Facilities, and                                                               
the State Equipment Fleet.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:13:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN  offered one important criteria  he used when                                                               
selecting his lead  staff:  leadership skills.   He stressed that                                                               
all three  of his  Deputy Commissioners are  strong leaders.   He                                                               
said that Steve Titus would  remain the Regional Director for the                                                               
Northern Region,  Rob Campbell, who  was previously the  Chief of                                                               
Design,  has accepted  the Regional  Director's position  for the                                                               
Central  Region, and  Gary  Davis would  remain  as the  Regional                                                               
Director for Southeast  Alaska.  He reiterated  the importance of                                                               
having strong leadership at the top of DOT&PF's organization.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:15:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN turned  to  funding [slide  6]. He  reviewed                                                               
DOT&PF's funding,  relating its  operating budget of  nearly $253                                                               
million  is comprised  primarily of  Capital Improvement  Program                                                               
(CIP) fund  receipts of  about $140  million, with  the remaining                                                               
balance of  $112 million derived  from the  International Airport                                                               
System  revenue.   The interagency  receipts and  Highway Working                                                               
Group  Capital  Fund  primarily  represent  the  State  Equipment                                                               
Fleet.   He  noted the  general funds  total $328  million.   The                                                               
Capital Budget  of $664 million  represents federal  funds Alaska                                                               
receives.  The general funds  are comprised of the state matching                                                               
funds and  $72 million  in Highway Safety  Program receipts.   He                                                               
related  that the  $91 million  remaining is  derived from  AIDEA                                                               
funding,  Highway Working  Group  Capital, International  Airport                                                               
receipts,  and AIS  Construction  receipts,  which are  primarily                                                               
bonds.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:17:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN reviewed  the DOT&PF's Project Prioritization                                                               
[slide 7].   He stressed that safety is the  first priority.  The                                                               
DOT&PF's  second  priority  is   sustainment  of  DOT&PF's  Asset                                                               
Management System,  which is  comprised of  maintaining pavement,                                                               
bridges,  airports,  ferries, and  transit  systems.   Next,  the                                                               
priority  is  implementing  the 2030  Long  Range  Transportation                                                               
Plan, including  the Regional Transportation Plans,  the Aviation                                                               
Improvement   Program  (AIP),   and   the  State   Transportation                                                               
Improvement Program (STIP).                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:18:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P. WILSON  requested an  update  on STIP  changes at  some                                                               
point in the future, including plans for each region.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN  agreed to  do so.   He  offered spreadsheets                                                               
that outline changes  to the STIP, titled  "Central Region Change                                                               
Summary"  which  was  passed  out  to members.    He  offered  to                                                               
highlight a  few of the safety  programs.  He explained  that the                                                               
Highway Safety  Program is  data driven  and helps  determine the                                                               
cost/benefit  ratio  to the  safety  projects.   The  program  is                                                               
funded  at $15  million.   The  Alaska Highway  Safety Office  is                                                               
funded  with federal  dollars,  and is  the  conduit between  the                                                               
DOT&PF and the Department of Public  Safety (DPS).  The funds are                                                               
used  for  education and  outreach.    He mentioned  he  recently                                                               
participated in producing a commercial  spot with DPS, which will                                                               
be used for  public education.  This year,  beginning next month,                                                               
the DOT&PF  will also update  its Strategic Highway  Safety Plan.                                                               
He  remarked Safe  Routes to  School (SRTS),  a federally  funded                                                               
program that  has had  some success,  encourages children  K-8 to                                                               
walk or  bike to school  and the  DOT&PF provides safe  means for                                                               
them to do  so.  Additionally, the  program facilitates planning,                                                               
development  and implementation  of  projects  and activities  to                                                               
improve  safety, traffic,  and fuel  consumption around  schools.                                                               
He reiterated that the SRTS program  helps make it safer for kids                                                               
to get to school.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:21:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   LUIKEN   reviewed   the   governor's   priorities,                                                               
including  jobs,   safety,  roads  to  resources,   and  deferred                                                               
maintenance  [slide   8].    He  elaborated   on  the  governor's                                                               
priorities,  noting the  first priority  is to  provide jobs  for                                                               
Alaskans.   Last  year  the  DOT&PF put  out  to  bid about  $500                                                               
million in  contracts, which  equals jobs, he  said.   The DOT&PF                                                               
also helped pave  the way for the Alaska Ship  & Drydock, Inc. by                                                               
negotiating  some land  swaps  that will  afford  the company  an                                                               
opportunity to  compete to  build the  Alaska Class  Ferry (ACF).                                                               
He stated  that between  funding new  roads and  opening Alaska's                                                               
mineral potential, the DOT&PF is  also leveraging $673 million in                                                               
federal  funds  for highways  and  aviation  with state  matching                                                               
funds.   He characterized this as  a big year for  the DOT&PF, by                                                               
putting projects out  to bid and in doing so  putting Alaskans to                                                               
work.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   LUIKEN   continued   discussing   the   governor's                                                               
priorities, turning  to the  second priority:   safety.   He said                                                               
that  2010  was the  safest  year  yet  on  Alaska's roads.    He                                                               
acknowledged  that while  any fatality  is  tragic, that  overall                                                               
highway deaths  were reduced  to 57  deaths this  past year.   He                                                               
related  the DOT&PF's  goal  for the  three-year  average of  the                                                               
number  of  highway  fatality  deaths   is  67,  but  the  DOT&PF                                                               
surpassed  its  goal.   He  reported  the three-year  average  is                                                               
currently at 61  highway fatalities.  He offered  his belief that                                                               
the state  has been making  progress in highway safety,  in part,                                                               
due  to  the creation  of  four  highway  safety corridors.    He                                                               
explained  that through  this process,  the DOT&PF  partners with                                                               
the Department of Public Safety  (DPS) to collaborate and provide                                                               
improvements  in  road  engineering, education  and  enforcement.                                                               
The  DPS is  responsible  for the  enforcement  portion, and  the                                                               
DOT&PF  has  worked  diligently to  engineer  roads  for  greater                                                               
safety.    He  detailed  that he  has  worked  with  Commissioner                                                               
Masters, DPS, as  previously mentioned, on public  education.  He                                                               
outlined that  the DOT&PF has  focused on three  primary projects                                                               
in its  Roads to Resources  program:  the Ambler  mining district                                                               
access, Foothills West  road to Umiat, and  Western Access, which                                                               
is  often  called  "the  road  to Nome."    The  DOT&PF  recently                                                               
finished a study and identified  a preferred alternative proposed                                                               
to  the  latter  project.   The  Governor  has  emphasized  these                                                               
projects, as will the DOT&PF, he vowed.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:25:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN,  in response to  Chair P. Wilson,  agreed to                                                               
do  provide a  future  briefing  on each  of  the  projects.   He                                                               
continued  his overview,  stating  that $25  million  was in  the                                                               
Governor's  DOT&PF  budget last  year  for  maintenance and  that                                                               
effort began  last summer.   He offered his belief  an additional                                                               
$27 million is  included in the FY 12 budget  to address deferred                                                               
maintenance needs across all modes.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:26:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN  reviewed  successes  [slides  9  &  10]  He                                                               
referred  to  the  photograph  in  slide  10  depicting  some  of                                                               
DOT&PF's successes.   He referred to the image on  the upper left                                                               
of  the photo  of  the  Tanana River  Bridge,  located at  Alaska                                                               
Highway Milepost 1303.  This  $30 million project started in 2007                                                               
and replaced the  span bridge, he stated.  The  new bridge opened                                                               
this  summer,  while  the  old span  bridge  is  currently  being                                                               
deconstructed, and should  be completed by 2011.   The lower left                                                               
photo shows  the road in  the village of  Newtok, he said.   This                                                               
strongly supported federal project  is being built in conjunction                                                               
with the  U.S. Department of Defense.   This year, 1,800  feet of                                                               
road was  completed this  year and the  department plans  to move                                                               
forward with  the evacuation shelter  within the next year.   The                                                               
upper right photo shows the  completed Hoonah dock.  The terminal                                                               
should open next month, which is  a little behind schedule.  Last                                                               
summer, the  DOT&PF Fairbanks International Airport  (FIA) opened                                                               
up direct service  to Denver by Frontier Airlines  and service to                                                               
Salt  Lake City  by  Delta Airlines.   The  DOT&PF  plans to  add                                                               
international  flights to  Europe this  summer via  Edelweiss Air                                                               
(Switzerland)  which  will  also complement  the  current  Condor                                                               
Airlines  service from  Anchorage to  numerous points  in Europe.                                                               
Additionally, DOT&PF  plans to add another  international carrier                                                               
with service  to Anchorage  in 2012.   Finally, Jet  Blue Airways                                                               
will  begin direct  service from  Los Angeles  to Anchorage  this                                                               
summer, he said.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:29:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN  reported  that the  Alaska  Marine  Highway                                                               
System (AMHS) has  installed a fuel management  system on several                                                               
vessels.   The  fuel  management system  offers significant  fuel                                                               
savings  since  the  system  is automated.    He  consulted  with                                                               
Captain Falvey,  then confirmed the  system will be  installed an                                                               
additional three vessels this summer.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN pointed  out  several  other projects.  This                                                               
year the DOT&PF completed the  Gustavus causeway, which opened up                                                               
ferry service to  serve that community, noting  AMHS will provide                                                               
fulltime service to Gustavus beginning  this summer.  He reported                                                               
that  this   past  summer  the  DOT&PF   suffered  a  significant                                                               
landslide  on  the  Taylor  Highway.   The  DOT&PF  received  $12                                                               
million  in emergency  funding and  quickly cleared  and reopened                                                               
the highway.   He commended  the Northern Region for  its efforts                                                               
during   that  natural   disaster.     The  DOT&PF   successfully                                                               
designated  its American  Recovery and  Reinvestment Act  of 2009                                                               
(ARRA) funds,  and ranked fifth  in the  nation in the  amount of                                                               
funds obligated.   He mentioned another  project, which completed                                                               
work to open  a new runway at Barrow, and  also reported that the                                                               
DOT&PF has  completed half of  its runway seven extension  at the                                                               
Anchorage  International Airport  (AIA) and  has plans  to finish                                                               
the remaining  portion of the  project this summer.   He remarked                                                               
that the  project will significantly  increase the  capability of                                                               
the AIA.   It will  be able to  handle the heaviest  new aircraft                                                               
being brought on in many new fleets.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:32:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN  reported on  the successful  aviation summit                                                               
held  in  Anchorage  this  summer,   which  was  attended  by  18                                                               
companies  from around  the world.   The  summit was  held in  an                                                               
effort to help participants understand  the unique cargo transfer                                                               
laws that  apply in Alaska  and Hawaii.   He related  this summit                                                               
generated  significant interest  in  Alaska.   The Anchorage  and                                                               
Fairbanks airport managers recently spent  three weeks in Asia as                                                               
a follow-up to  that summit, conducting 14 meetings in  7 days in                                                               
3  different  countries.    The  managers  were  able  to  answer                                                               
questions and  generate significant  interest by air  carriers in                                                               
using  Alaska's international  airports.   He offered  his belief                                                               
this effort  should reap  huge benefits to  Alaska in  the coming                                                               
years.     The  department  completed  paving   road  resurfacing                                                               
projects  from Anchorage  to Palmer,  which  improved safety  and                                                               
comfort for vehicular travel.   He anticipated next year lighting                                                               
projects  will also  be completed.   The  Sterling and  Tok weigh                                                               
stations  were finished  this summer,  which will  add additional                                                               
capability for commercial vehicle  enforcement.  He remarked that                                                               
the DOT&PF  also held a  successful ports and  harbors conference                                                               
in December 2010.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:34:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN  reported  on challenges  the  DOT&PF  faces                                                               
[slide  11].   He reported  that the  federal transportation  and                                                               
aviation reauthorization  bills have not  yet be acted on  by the                                                               
Congress.    The  current  funding  for  the  programs  is  being                                                               
authorized  under a  continuing resolution  which will  expire on                                                               
March 4,  2011.  He  said he anticipates another  resolution will                                                               
be  passed   prior  to   the  Congress   taking  action   on  the                                                               
reauthorization  bills.    He  remarked that  it  makes  it  very                                                               
difficult for  DOT&PF to  program projects  since it  the funding                                                               
level is  uncertain and the  DOT&PF's projections  represent "our                                                               
best guess."    The DOT&PF  has been operating on  the assumption                                                               
that  the levels  will  be  at the  same  levels  as the  current                                                               
SAFETEA-LU  [Transportation  Equity Act:    A  Legacy for  Users]                                                               
transportation funding levels.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:36:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN  related proposed changes could  result in up                                                               
to a 20  percent reduction in federal highway  funding in Alaska.                                                               
He said he  anticipates that given the  fiscal impacts nationally                                                               
that  the state  should expect  an overall  reduction in  federal                                                               
funds.    He  recalled  the  governor  also  discussed  the  time                                                               
constraints  imposed by  the  National  Environmental Policy  Act                                                               
(NEPA)  process.   He remarked  that the  NEPA process  slows the                                                               
DOT&PF's ability  to bring projects  out to bid.    He  turned to                                                               
discuss the AMHS.  He  related that he instructed Captain Falvey,                                                               
and  will  also ask  his  new  deputy  commissioner, to  work  at                                                               
creating efficiencies for the AMHS's  system to attempt to shrink                                                               
the  state  subsidies  required.    He  remarked  that  the  fuel                                                               
efficiency is one way the AMHS  has created cost savings, but the                                                               
DOT&PF's  leadership  will continue  to  work  to identify  other                                                               
efficiencies.    He  said he  previously  mentioned  the  natural                                                               
disaster  on  the Taylor  Highway,  noting  that other  disasters                                                               
routinely  happen.   During  those times,  the  DOT&PF must  then                                                               
focus  on recovery  and not  on routine  projects.   He commented                                                               
that  natural disasters  create challenges  but these  challenges                                                               
are not insurmountable.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:39:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN said  he opened  his overview  by describing                                                               
his vision and  characterized this next slide as  a good example:                                                               
"511.Alaska.gov"  [slide  12].    He  stated  that  this  website                                                               
represents a  method to disperse  information to the public.   He                                                               
pointed out that the DOT&PF  recently had a significant data base                                                               
crash.  The  road weather information provided on that  site is a                                                               
popular  one so  when  it was  down  for a  couple  of weeks  the                                                               
commissioner "heard" about  it.  The DOT&PF  remedied the problem                                                               
with  the   "501  Alaska"  since   its  cameras  have   the  same                                                               
capabilities.    He  also referred  to  the  Project  Description                                                               
Project  listing on  the  "511.Alaaksa.gov"  website, which  will                                                               
provide online  access to obtain  the STIP  information timeline.                                                               
He emphasized the helpful information provided on the website.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:41:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN referred  to the  photograph of  legislators                                                               
who traveled  on the Dalton Highway  last summer [slide 13].   He                                                               
informed  members  that  the DOT&PF  will  offer  another  Dalton                                                               
Highway  tour   on  June  21,   2011  and  welcomed   members  to                                                               
participate.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P. WILSON  remarked that  she enjoyed  the Dalton  Highway                                                               
tour  last year  and also  urged members  to participate  in June                                                               
2011.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:42:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MENARD referred to her  district in the Matanuska-Susitna                                                               
Borough  (Mat-Su Borough)  and  the Knik/Goose  Bay Road  Highway                                                               
Safety Corridor.   She recalled last  summer's traffic fatalities                                                               
on the  Knik/Goose Bay Road  and asked whether the  department is                                                               
providing enough  resources to ensure  safety.  She  advised that                                                               
the Matanuska-Susitna  valley population has increased  to nearly                                                               
100,000 residents.   She commented that she was  very happy about                                                               
the record  of decision from  the Federal  Highway Administration                                                               
(FHWA)  for the  Knik  Arm Bridge  and  Toll Authority  (KABATA),                                                               
which  came through  in  December 2010.    She characterized  the                                                               
project as  an asset and the  project could provide a  great exit                                                               
point  in the  event of  an earthquake.   She  reported that  she                                                               
currently serves on the KABATA board.   She further asked for the                                                               
total number of employees at the DOT&PF.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN answered  that  he  reviewed the  statistics                                                               
after the traffic  fatality on Knik/Goose Bay Road.   He reported                                                               
that  the department  has  seen a  significant  decline in  fatal                                                               
accidents  on Knik/Goose  Bay  Road due  to  the engineering  and                                                               
additional  DPS   enforcement  efforts.    He   said  he  thought                                                               
additional improvements for safety could  be made.  He offered to                                                               
provide the traffic data.  He  also responded that the DOT&PF has                                                               
approximately 3,600 to 3,800 employees.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:46:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MUNOZ  asked for  update  on  Lynn Canal  Highway                                                               
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN  answered  that  the DOT&PF  is  awaiting  a                                                               
ruling by  the 9th  Circuit Court  of Appeals  ruling.   He added                                                               
that the DOT&PF  is prepared to move forward on  the next section                                                               
of  that  road,  that  the  department has  one  more  permit  to                                                               
complete and could move forward  once the federal court ruling is                                                               
issued.  In further response  to Representative Munoz, he offered                                                               
to provide more detail later on the oral arguments in that case.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:47:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   THOMAS  expressed   his   concern   about  the   DOT&PF                                                               
contracting  out  large  construction  projects,  recalling  that                                                               
currently up  to 60 percent of  the road projects are  awarded to                                                               
out-of-state contractors.   He said he was  not convinced outside                                                               
firms can do construct projects  "cheaper."  He surmised that the                                                               
DOT&PF has a  record of the standard, certainly more  so than the                                                               
design  companies   that  are  subcontractors.     He  asked  the                                                               
commissioner   to  review   that   record.     He  recalled   the                                                               
commissioner's concern  that the state  might lose 20  percent of                                                               
FHWA  funds,  which would  amount  to  $175  to $200  million  in                                                               
federal funding.   He  asked how the  state should  proceed given                                                               
that the state  may also potentially forego  collecting the motor                                                               
fuels tax.   He noted that simultaneously the  state continues to                                                               
build new  roads and must  also address the  deferred maintenance                                                               
costs for  facilities.  He said  it seemed to him  that the state                                                               
has a huge  bill to pay at the same  time is experiencing reduced                                                               
income while expanding its facilities.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN answered  that he would love  to address both                                                               
concerns in more  detail later.  He related  his initial thoughts                                                               
are  that  the  DOT&PF  will gain  savings  through  organization                                                               
efficiencies.  He related his  understanding, with respect to the                                                               
fuel  tax issue,  that  the motor  fuel tax  is  a Department  of                                                               
Revenue issue  so it is not  necessarily tied to DOT&PF  state or                                                               
federal funding.  He remarked  that the amount of money committed                                                               
to transportation is  three to four times greater  than the motor                                                               
fuel tax revenue generated for the state.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:52:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR EGAN  mentioned one big project  not previously mentioned                                                               
is the  M/V Susitna, which  is being constructed entirely  in the                                                               
state at the Ketchikan shipyard.   He characterized the vessel as                                                               
a state of the  art vessel.  He said he hopes  that the U.S. Navy                                                               
will build a vessel twice that  size in Alaska.  He cautioned the                                                               
commissioner not  to forget the  Alaska Class Ferry (ACF)  as the                                                               
ferry system is important to coastal communities.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN  agreed that the  ACF ferry is a  success and                                                               
is at the 10 percent completion stage.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:54:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS referred to the  Highway Safety Corridors, noting                                                               
that 50  percent are  located in  his district.   He  related his                                                               
understanding   that   three   signal  lights   are   ready   for                                                               
positioning, but  was told that  there is a three-year  delay for                                                               
installation.   He then commended the  significant improvement in                                                               
Alaska's bike  paths to  the extent that  the public  now expects                                                               
them.   He  cautioned that  safety  needs must  be "retooled"  in                                                               
areas  where  bike  paths  are  adjacent to  schools.    He  also                                                               
suggested revisiting the  lease costs on rural  airport leases as                                                               
tenants cannot  afford to "park"  small planes.  He  stressed the                                                               
importance of aviation fuel production in the state.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN  asked to delay  his response on  the state's                                                               
Highway Safety Corridors.  He  answered that the DOT&PF currently                                                               
is  proposing changes  to Title  17, Chapter  45, which,  in most                                                               
instances will  result in  a reduction in  lease rates  for rural                                                               
airports.  He acknowledged the aviation fuel concerns.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS,  in response  to a  question, clarified  that he                                                               
was referring to the 100 low-lead (100LL).                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN  explained  that  Alaska  responded  to  the                                                               
Environmental  Protection Agency's  (EPA) proposed  rulemaking to                                                               
make 100LL endangerment finding.   He elaborated that last summer                                                               
the  EPA   proposed  regulation  changes  that   would  issue  an                                                               
endangerment finding on 100LL fuel,  which would identify it as a                                                               
danger to  humans.   The DOT&PF responded  with its  concern that                                                               
scientific data does not support  the finding and to quantify the                                                               
impact on  Alaska's aviation  system.   The EPA  contacted DOT&PF                                                               
and agreed  to include Alaska  in its  research.  He  pointed out                                                               
that  while  the EPA  would  make  the  finding but  the  Federal                                                               
Aviation Administration (FAA) would  ultimately make the decision                                                               
on whether lead is an issue.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:59:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN, in response  to Chair Wilson, explained that                                                               
the FAA has  been working for over 20 years  to find a substitute                                                               
to 100LL  that will work  in high-compression engines  that drive                                                               
the  smaller aviation  aircraft, acknowledging  that some  larger                                                               
aircraft can  also use  100LL.   The state  would like  to ensure                                                               
that  testing  will  occur  in   Alaska  since  alternative  fuel                                                               
products may work  in Kansas but not in Barrow.   He advised that                                                               
the  Alaska International  Airport  System  is currently  working                                                               
with  the Alaska  Fuel Suppliers  Consortium (AFSC)  to bring  in                                                               
additional fuel storage tankage at  the airport.  He related that                                                               
the DOT&PF has  seen a different mode of supply  from tanker fuel                                                               
suppliers  and the  larger  volume of  fuel  needed will  require                                                               
additional  storage capacity.   The  AFSC is  very interested  in                                                               
building  additional tanks  to provide  for additional  capacity,                                                               
which should result in an absence  of fuel shortages, such as the                                                               
one Alaska experienced a year ago.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:02:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P.  WILSON asked  for a cost  comparison for  aviation fuel                                                               
refined in Alaska versus fuel that is barged in.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN  said he was  unsure of the  cost comparison.                                                               
He explained  that as tankers  have begun  to bring in  fuel that                                                               
competition  has   increased.     He  offered  his   belief  that                                                               
competition should have  a favorable impact on  jet aviation fuel                                                               
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:02:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN,  in  response to  Representative  Petersen,                                                               
explained that  he has been  advised that Flint Hills  intends to                                                               
restart the  tower in April  2011, which  is an indicator  that a                                                               
little competition has potentially  helped in its decision-making                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:03:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRUITT recalled  some discussion  about adding  a                                                               
north  to south  runway  at the  Anchorage International  Airport                                                               
(AIA).  He  further recalled some carriers  gave some "pushback."                                                               
He asked for a status report.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN  answered during  his short tenure  as Deputy                                                               
Commissioner  that adding  the  runway was  not  an option  under                                                               
consideration.   He advised  that the  DOT&PF will  issue another                                                               
plan on the AIA System and  the DOT&PF will commence plans at the                                                               
Fairbanks International Airport (FIA) this summer.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:04:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON asked  what  happened to  the Lena  Point                                                               
camera since it  provided a good indicator of the  weather at the                                                               
airport.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN answered  that  the FAA  manages the  camera                                                               
program but offered to find out.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR EGAN  suggested that the  camera at Peterson  Hill, which                                                               
overlooks the runway,  is available online and  could provide the                                                               
weather information at the airport.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:06:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P.  WILSON  said  she  would like  to  pose  a  series  of                                                               
questions carried over  from last year.  She began  by asking for                                                               
a status report on the regional planning organizations.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN  responded  that  he  anticipated  that  the                                                               
legislature  will be  discussing the  issue, noting  that several                                                               
communities in Southeast Alaska are  also interested.  He offered                                                               
to provide input during the  discussions.  In further response to                                                               
Chair P. Wilson, he reiterated  his willingness to participate in                                                               
the discussions on regional planning organizations.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:07:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P. WILSON  recalled that  the Alaska  Railroad Corporation                                                               
(ARRC)  has  been  charging  the   DOT&PF  fees  for  maintenance                                                               
upgrades where the  railroad crosses highways.   She recalled the                                                               
fees and expressed concern that the  rate of cost plus 70 percent                                                               
was too high.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN  related his understanding that  the ARRC and                                                               
DOT&PF  have met  on  this  matter and  the  ARRC  has agreed  to                                                               
provide  an advance  list  of planned  upgrades  at crossings  to                                                               
DOT&PF so the  costs could be submitted in the  budget process as                                                               
capital projects.   This advance  notice would afford  the DOT&PF                                                               
cost projections  that would  allow the  DOT&PF to  negotiate the                                                               
cost as well  as request the necessary amount be  included in its                                                               
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P.  WILSON could not  recall whether maintenance  fees were                                                               
being charged on a monthly or annual basis.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN answered that  the ARRC charges a maintenance                                                               
cost per  crossing and at  this time the  ARRC is not  willing to                                                               
discuss  the maintenance  costs.   He  said the  DOT&PF is  still                                                               
negotiating with ARRC on this issue.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P. WILSON  said  she hoped  the ARRC  would  come up  with                                                               
something  that is  agreeable rather  than  have the  legislature                                                               
take action.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN  pointed  out   that  part  of  slowdown  in                                                               
resolving the  fee issue was  due to the prior  counsel workload,                                                               
which he  described as  "being swamped."   He commented  that the                                                               
ARRC now has a new general  counsel.  He indicated the DOT&PF has                                                               
requested that the  negotiations on this matter be  reopened.  In                                                               
further  response to  Chair P.  Wilson,  he offered  to keep  her                                                               
apprised on the matter.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:10:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN,  in response  to Chair P.  Wilson, indicated                                                               
he would  work with the Department  of Environmental Conservation                                                               
(DEC)  Commissioner  Hartig  to  reach  a  conclusion  about  the                                                               
naturally  occurring  asbestos  issue  in  Ambler.    In  further                                                               
response to  Chair P.  Wilson, he  agreed the  issue is  that the                                                               
gravel was found  to be harmful to residents and  that he offered                                                               
to keep the committee informed on the matter.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:11:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   WILSON  related   her  understanding   that  the                                                               
Ketchikan Gateway  Borough has  been operating  its airport  at a                                                               
deficit of about $400 thousand  per year and has been considering                                                               
transferring ownership to the state.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN advised  that  he currently  has  a team  in                                                               
Ketchikan  assessing  the  situation.   He  explained  that  last                                                               
summer the  state auditors reviewed  the financial  documents and                                                               
provided the DOT&PF  with a report.  The  audit demonstrated that                                                               
under  the   current  lease,  the  Ketchikan   Gateway  Borough's                                                               
assessment  was  probably  correct.   He  related  that  he  then                                                               
offered to send a team of  airport operators to look at Ketchikan                                                               
International Airport (KIA) operations  since he is not convinced                                                               
that the  airport has  taken advantage  of efficiencies  to lower                                                               
costs.   The team has  been in Ketchikan  for the past  two days.                                                               
He  reported  that  the  DOT&PF  is  working  with  the  KIA  and                                                               
Ketchikan  Gateway Borough  (KGB)  on the  issue  of the  airport                                                               
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:13:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P.  WILSON asked  for  status  on  the request  to  expand                                                               
airport services in Bethel.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN acknowledged that  this is an important issue                                                               
for the community  and the carriers.  He said  the Bethel Airport                                                               
services  will  be discussed  with  the  Aviation Advisory  Board                                                               
tomorrow.  He offered to continue to move forward on this issue.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:13:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P.  WILSON asked to turn  to the AMHS, ports,  and harbors.                                                               
She asked  for the DOT&PF's  involvement with  federal government                                                               
with respect to design marine  highway corridors.  She also asked                                                               
whether the DOT&PF  has given any thought to creating  a plan for                                                               
deep harbors in the event  another route is developed through the                                                               
Arctic.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN  answered yes.   He reported that  the DOT&PF                                                               
received  about $250,000  last  year  to perform  a  study.   The                                                               
DOT&PF conducted  a joint  regional ports  and harbor  study with                                                               
U.S. Corps of  Engineers.  The effort resulted in  a "big list of                                                               
needs" from many  different sources.  The DOT&PF  is currently in                                                               
the process of culling the  list to identify only essential items                                                               
and remove any duplication.   Once finished, the DOT&PF will then                                                               
work with  the U.S.  Corps of Engineers  to prioritize  the list.                                                               
In further response  to Chair Wilson, he offered  his belief that                                                               
this list  pertains to all ports  and harbors.  He  then provided                                                               
an  untitled list  of projects  by  region and  community to  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:16:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P.  WILSON asked for  status on  the DOT&PF efforts  on the                                                               
Prince Rupert, with respect to the AMHS.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN  identified that Prince Rupert  initially was                                                               
only willing to offer a five-year  lease to the state, which is a                                                               
"non-starter" due  to the federal  funding process.   He reported                                                               
that  this issue  has since  been resolved  as Prince  Rupert has                                                               
committed to allow  a long-term lease.  The  DOT&PF has solicited                                                               
appraisal services  that will  close out tomorrow.   He  hoped by                                                               
the end of  the week that the DOT&PF would  have two contracts in                                                               
place  to finish  the  appraisal  and allow  the  state to  begin                                                               
negotiations with Prince Rupert on a long-term lease.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:18:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P. WILSON asked for a status on the Hoonah Ferry terminal.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN  answered that  it  should  be completed  in                                                               
March 2011.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  P.  WILSON then  asked  for  status  on the  Haines  Ferry                                                               
terminal upgrades.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN  related   that  the  environmental  process                                                               
should begin next  month.  He explained that the  project will be                                                               
completed in two  phases, first, to replace the  sheet pile cells                                                               
and then to  construct the unloading facility for the  ferry.  He                                                               
said he  hoped that the  first phase would be  out to bid  by the                                                               
end of the year.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P. WILSON also asked whether  the facility would be able to                                                               
accommodate both front-loading and side-loading ferries.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN,  after   consulting  with  Captain  Falvey,                                                               
confirmed that it would accommodate both types of ferries.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:19:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P. WILSON  recalled reading that rural  Alaska has provided                                                               
a single unified list of  needed appropriations.  She asked about                                                               
funding levels.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  LUIKEN  responded  that  the  DOT&PF  has  not  yet                                                               
completed the study.   He remarked that once  the DOT&PF compiles                                                               
a single  list, that  the department will  continue to  work with                                                               
the  U.S. Corps  of Engineers  to prioritize  projects.   At that                                                               
point  the DOT&PF  will  have  a better  idea  of  the costs,  he                                                               
advised.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P.  WILSON asked whether  the state could partner  with the                                                               
Denali Commission  to try  to obtain  funding other  than relying                                                               
solely on state funds.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER LUIKEN answered that he  was certain that the DOT&PF                                                               
will look at all sources of funding.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:20:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P. WILSON thanked Commissioner Luiken for his overview.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:21:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business  before the committees, the joint                                                               
meeting between  the House Transportation Standing  Committee and                                                               
the  Senate Transportation  Standing Committee  was adjourned  at                                                               
2:21 p.m.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                

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